Talk:The War on Drugs is responsible for America's high rates of incarceration

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Wording of Claim[edit source]

I'm starting to think that the term "War on Drugs" may be semantically ambiguous and dysfunctional for a claim title. What does the "War on Drugs" mean? Does it mean

  • only policies against non-violent drug offenses
  • only policies against drug offenses
  • a broader approach including policies against drug offenses and also "Tough on Crime" increases in sentencing penalties for violent, non-drug related crime


The Tough on Crime laws are typically associated in the literature with the War on Drugs so arguing that the War on Drugs didn't cause something because Tough on Crime caused it makes my head spin a little bit.

It might be useful to rename this claim to not use the term "War on Drugs" and maybe split it into other subclaims. Devinplatt (talk) 06:40, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Also, does "War on Drugs" refer to a federal policy only? The Against section includes "It’s not the federal government that’s behind mass incarceration, but a whole host of prison systems down to the local and state level." as an argument against. Devinplatt (talk) 23:35, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Are definitions themselves claims? If so, I think that might be a path forward towards refining ur-claims outside of talk pages. --Emar (talk) 22:00, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
Good question. In short, no. I don't think it's too practical to redefine ambiguous terms or words, because then anyone who reads the page has to learn these new definitions that are unique to one website.
I think it's a lot more practical to just try to avoid ambiguous terms and use more precise language.
TBH I really just have been procrastinating on a reword of this particular claim because I know I'll probably have to sit down for an hour or two just to figure out how I should restructure all the information I gathered here. I'll get to it soon enough though! Devinplatt (talk) 07:57, 23 December 2018 (UTC)